Can I Innoculate My Cakes Again if They Are Not Colonizing Written By Mashman Experearie Sunday, May 15, 2022 Add Comment Edit BTL99 Active Member Joined: Jul ii, 2011 Messages: 1,529 I have my 6 jars going right at present and 2 of them look completely done to me. one of them is well-nigh 95% done and the other 3 are notwithstanding going. Do I fruit the outset 3 correct at present and wait another week or so until the other ones finish? If a jar is washed, is there a time frame in which it needs to be fruited before it goes bad? Also, if yous had to gauge, what corporeality of mushrooms should I get from 6 jars? Here is a pic: When birthing cakes as cakes, e'er allow up to 2 weeks of a consolidation period in the jars afterwards total a colonization has been reached. A period of consolidation isn't necessary go if you plan on using your BRF as spawn. Allow the cake's mycelium to make up one's mind when the cakes are to birthed by following the proper guidelines for the diverse stages of mushroom growth. In other words, if some cakes colonize quicker then others, and then birth the ones that are ready earlier the others, birthing the slower ones as they consolidate. The reason your experiencing different rates of mycelial growth is because y'all inoculated with spores. Cloned and isolated cultures perform the aforementioned from jar to jar. Multi-spore inoculations create different families of mycelium that'll all behave DIFFERENTLY from jar to jar, due to the genetic variances. You might as well expect till all the jars are 100% colonized, it volition actually help for the jars that are 100% colonized to sit effectually for a few extra days to consolidate. Equally far as weight, no ane can give you an accurate respond to that. At that place are but too many variables that take yet to play out. Genetics, contaminates, your fruiting conditions. If this is your first grow, just be happy if you go annihilation. When fruiting cakes as cakes, a "few days" of a consolidation period is Non long enough (after full colonization is reached) for the mycelium to gain a FULL foot-holding of the substrate. Not letting mycelium consolidate BRF normally causes blobs and prolongs fruiting. I'five seen cakes that haven't been consolidated, grow blobs and never recover. The mycelium'due south not going to fruit anyhow until it's consolidated the substrate. Leave cakes in the jars for at least one full Week to consolidate. Slower colonizing mycelium is going to have LONGER to consolidate then a rapid colonizing mycelium. I give my cakes a calendar month to consolidate. Nice to hear that, didnt know this at all. I am most pleased with all my jars and their fruits, hehe. But and so again; I use the 125 ml type and they go along practiced I don't know if in that location is any point in waiting a full month after 100% colonization(by that time my cakes would take washed fruited inside the jars) only I'thousand sure you get the betoken. I too ascertain 100% colonization for cakes as about a calendar week after the outside of the jar appears to be 100% colonized. If following PF Tek your shooting spores on the outer walls of the cake where it meets the glass, so the exterior is likely to stop earlier the interior. Different folks, different strokes. Similar I said, I'm sure you lot become the point and later awhile you'll figure out what works for you. BTL99 Active Member Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Messages: 1,529 Thanks for the input from everyone. Very helpful. After the offset flush of fruit, you lot can dunk the cakes again and get another flush, right? OoBYCoO Super Moderator Moderator Mushroom Doctor Joined: May 30, 2011 Messages: 5,002 BTL99 Active Fellow member Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Letters: one,529 Didn't know that. Very absurd. BTL99 Active Fellow member Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Messages: 1,529 And then two of my jars have not inverse at all in the past vii days or and so. Tin a jar get "stuck" where it merely won't colonize anymore? Any tricks to become it going again. These two jars are like 90% done. BTL99 Active Fellow member Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Messages: 1,529 Mycelium CAN, and is KNOWN to "stall" all of the time. The cause of this is commonly a restriction of gas substitution, or contamination. Well-nigh of the time, mush. myce. stalls due to lack of gas exchange, it doesn't recover. Could just be that the cakes aren't getting plenty gas substitution in those areas due to the size of the jar and the substrate has go besides meaty or starved for oxygen for myce. growth in said areas. I wouldn't inoculate those size jars with any thing less and then LC. Spores colonize as well slowly from spore inoculation and rarely, fully colonize the substrate in jars of the that size. Another pick is to get the proper size half-pint, wide mouthed jars, peculiarly for inoculating with spores. BTL99 Agile Member Joined: Jul two, 2011 Messages: 1,529 That makes sense I approximate, thanks for that info. I tin can nonetheless go alee and fruit them though correct? Sure. Let me know if there is something I'v said that you'r not clear about. I'd exist happy to try and clear up whatsoever confusion you may have.. hortfrournight61.blogspot.com Source: https://www.mycotek.org/index.php?threads/351/ Share this post
I have my 6 jars going right at present and 2 of them look completely done to me. one of them is well-nigh 95% done and the other 3 are notwithstanding going. Do I fruit the outset 3 correct at present and wait another week or so until the other ones finish? If a jar is washed, is there a time frame in which it needs to be fruited before it goes bad? Also, if yous had to gauge, what corporeality of mushrooms should I get from 6 jars? Here is a pic:
When birthing cakes as cakes, e'er allow up to 2 weeks of a consolidation period in the jars afterwards total a colonization has been reached. A period of consolidation isn't necessary go if you plan on using your BRF as spawn. Allow the cake's mycelium to make up one's mind when the cakes are to birthed by following the proper guidelines for the diverse stages of mushroom growth. In other words, if some cakes colonize quicker then others, and then birth the ones that are ready earlier the others, birthing the slower ones as they consolidate. The reason your experiencing different rates of mycelial growth is because y'all inoculated with spores. Cloned and isolated cultures perform the aforementioned from jar to jar. Multi-spore inoculations create different families of mycelium that'll all behave DIFFERENTLY from jar to jar, due to the genetic variances.
You might as well expect till all the jars are 100% colonized, it volition actually help for the jars that are 100% colonized to sit effectually for a few extra days to consolidate. Equally far as weight, no ane can give you an accurate respond to that. At that place are but too many variables that take yet to play out. Genetics, contaminates, your fruiting conditions. If this is your first grow, just be happy if you go annihilation.
When fruiting cakes as cakes, a "few days" of a consolidation period is Non long enough (after full colonization is reached) for the mycelium to gain a FULL foot-holding of the substrate. Not letting mycelium consolidate BRF normally causes blobs and prolongs fruiting. I'five seen cakes that haven't been consolidated, grow blobs and never recover. The mycelium'due south not going to fruit anyhow until it's consolidated the substrate. Leave cakes in the jars for at least one full Week to consolidate. Slower colonizing mycelium is going to have LONGER to consolidate then a rapid colonizing mycelium. I give my cakes a calendar month to consolidate.
Nice to hear that, didnt know this at all. I am most pleased with all my jars and their fruits, hehe. But and so again; I use the 125 ml type and they go along practiced
I don't know if in that location is any point in waiting a full month after 100% colonization(by that time my cakes would take washed fruited inside the jars) only I'thousand sure you get the betoken. I too ascertain 100% colonization for cakes as about a calendar week after the outside of the jar appears to be 100% colonized. If following PF Tek your shooting spores on the outer walls of the cake where it meets the glass, so the exterior is likely to stop earlier the interior. Different folks, different strokes. Similar I said, I'm sure you lot become the point and later awhile you'll figure out what works for you.
Thanks for the input from everyone. Very helpful. After the offset flush of fruit, you lot can dunk the cakes again and get another flush, right?
And then two of my jars have not inverse at all in the past vii days or and so. Tin a jar get "stuck" where it merely won't colonize anymore? Any tricks to become it going again. These two jars are like 90% done.
Mycelium CAN, and is KNOWN to "stall" all of the time. The cause of this is commonly a restriction of gas substitution, or contamination. Well-nigh of the time, mush. myce. stalls due to lack of gas exchange, it doesn't recover. Could just be that the cakes aren't getting plenty gas substitution in those areas due to the size of the jar and the substrate has go besides meaty or starved for oxygen for myce. growth in said areas. I wouldn't inoculate those size jars with any thing less and then LC. Spores colonize as well slowly from spore inoculation and rarely, fully colonize the substrate in jars of the that size. Another pick is to get the proper size half-pint, wide mouthed jars, peculiarly for inoculating with spores.
That makes sense I approximate, thanks for that info. I tin can nonetheless go alee and fruit them though correct?
Sure. Let me know if there is something I'v said that you'r not clear about. I'd exist happy to try and clear up whatsoever confusion you may have..
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